tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post3126196308517658198..comments2024-02-12T23:56:11.051-05:00Comments on Daytonology: Caught in the Middle: "Ohio, It's so sad to see your story end"Jeffereyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01294969786619943530noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-14693825222226604772009-07-20T15:58:07.855-04:002009-07-20T15:58:07.855-04:00Yeah. I think Cincy counts. Or its like St Louis ...Yeah. I think Cincy counts. Or its like St Louis and Pbgh, sort of its own place? <br /><br />Dayton is generic Midwest. Cincy is special.Jeffereyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294969786619943530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-308356543452004792009-07-19T18:32:55.120-04:002009-07-19T18:32:55.120-04:00Should Cincinnati be included in this discussion o...Should Cincinnati be included in this discussion of the Midwest? It didn't make the cut on the unofficial Midwest map at the front of Longworth's book. However, as Cincy and Dayton continue to grow into each other will that change the boundaries of the "Midwest"? Perhaps Cincy is a part of the South? Confused Cincinnatian, with a good case of identity crisis, looking for answers...N_O_R_T_O_Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02622592770239984942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-35136348021386348332008-04-07T15:11:00.000-04:002008-04-07T15:11:00.000-04:00So what is Peoria (and Grand Rapids) doing that Da...So what is Peoria (and Grand Rapids) doing that Dayton isn't??<BR/><BR/>Lots!! I'm researching this topic for my dissertation. GR and Peoria have greater economic diversification, a structure of non for profit organizations that spurs economic growth, as well as powerful donors willing to "take a hit for the team" so to speak.Hilaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00337346522730672146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-52049459405678459662008-04-01T15:49:00.000-04:002008-04-01T15:49:00.000-04:00"I love that song..."Yeah me too. That and Spring..."I love that song..."<BR/><BR/>Yeah me too. That and Springsteens' "Youngstown". <BR/><BR/>It took me a while to warm up to that OTR album...Jeffereyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294969786619943530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-63857498461473217682008-04-01T15:47:00.000-04:002008-04-01T15:47:00.000-04:00"People like Thomas Friedman argue that intellectu..."People like Thomas Friedman argue that intellectual centers are what the future will reward, while the author says “it’s not research that drives economies,-it’s products.”<BR/><BR/>The quote was by the Ohio economist, Longworth was quoting him. Longworth probably agrees with Friedman, based on his positive comments about the land grant universities.Jeffereyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294969786619943530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-84005630977653040832008-04-01T01:31:00.000-04:002008-04-01T01:31:00.000-04:00Maybe this book should be the Big Read?So what is ...Maybe this book should be the Big Read?<BR/>So what is Peoria doing that Dayton isn't?<BR/>Negative comments on state and local government are interesting, as to the inability to act locally and affect what is happening globally. Notice that the courts struck down New York State's attempt to deal with the unpleasant effects of being stuck in airports. If anything, economic power is getting more vested in supra-national institutions such as were created by Nafta. Local governments, to which people may relate more comfortably, may be more likely to fight with each other, and guarantee that larger views do not get the attention that they need.<BR/>Also an interesting comment on Dayton depending on industries created by local innovators and not keeping pace. Most local communities are dominated by a few employers. And of course any community is at risk in a changing economy. People like Thomas Friedman argue that intellectual centers are what the future will reward, while the author says “it’s not research that drives economies,-it’s products.” Who is right. <BR/>And of course we have the comments on race, stating that the black underclass as “America’s single insoluble social failure." This dynamic is certainly a prime mover in Dayton as in most of the rest of America. Much of our energy on this topic these days is focussed on Obama's candidacy. It will be interesting how the negatives on Obama's minister work out, particularly if he gets the nomination. The attack is that even if Obama himself is "safe" enough to whites, he is associated with someone who isn't. <BR/>I suggest that minister Wright sees himself in the tradition of Biblical prophets, who spoke the truth to power, often that the powerful had done wrong and that bad things were going to happen as a result. For instance the prophet Nathan told King David he shouldn't have murdered his loyal general to cover up the fact that he had gotten the general's wife pregnant. Prophets were not popular with the powerful and spent much of their time in hiding. They would not have gotten elected to public office, if there had been any. Often their message was that the ruler had lost God's favor because of his wrongdoing. Thus Wright suggested that God might not bless America, and might do the opposite, if America disregarded what God has to say about violence, justice and abuse of power, say by starting a destructive war. Obama, who wants to be "king," is not going to embrace the prophet's comments but may hear them and try to fix things. Perhaps in our media culture where you can scour the record for sound bites and play them over and over again, Rev. Wright will turn off enough white people to swing the election. Maybe not. McCain has had to disavow the comments of a few ministers also, so maybe not enough people will care.<BR/>Anyway electing Obama would not solve the problems of the black underclass, although his experience as a community organizer might give him some insight that other presidents have lacked. However presidents follow social movements rather than lead them, so the main thing might be that a country willing to elect Obama might also be prepared to solve those problems. There would ceertainly be plenty of solving that could be done here in Dayton.Stan Hirtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18368298604546537156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-27977001259052253992008-03-31T22:34:00.000-04:002008-03-31T22:34:00.000-04:00Great post. I love that song...Great post. I love that song...Matthew Sauerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11494537587293965053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-35718029994077337472008-03-31T21:56:00.000-04:002008-03-31T21:56:00.000-04:00much for "Get Midwest" huh?Guess I've got another ...much for "Get Midwest" huh?<BR/>Guess I've got another book to add to the reading list pile.<BR/>Thanks for writing about this Jeffrey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com