tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post3785213972352701556..comments2024-02-12T23:56:11.051-05:00Comments on Daytonology: The Third & Main ProblemJeffereyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01294969786619943530noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-46367310100757164332009-03-10T22:30:00.000-04:002009-03-10T22:30:00.000-04:00As an occasional bus rider, I am looking forward t...As an occasional bus rider, I am looking forward to the new bus hub if it makes the transfer process easier and more comfortable. Right now its hard to know what corner your transfer bus will use and in the winter, it is pretty cold and wet waiting outside.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-39905071735290916022009-03-09T16:53:00.000-04:002009-03-09T16:53:00.000-04:00To Anonymous: Good call on the Arcade. From what...To Anonymous: Good call on the Arcade. From what I gather this was traditionally popular with teens, so that entertainment center that is being proposed might work better than we think. But that won't happen.<BR/><BR/>I don't have a problem with RTA enforcing certain standards of behavior at its hub, but the fact there is such a concentration of folks coming downtown makes this a good opportunity rather than a problem...especially considering there is already a little concentration of retail on the block without much planning for it or marketing it.<BR/><BR/>To Mike Bock: The valuable bit of info in this blog post is the Social Compact link. The research by this group helped justify an urban shopping center in Cleveland, Steelyard Commons. So I can see their methodology being used here in Dayton to help demonstrate there is more of a market than is visible. <BR/><BR/><BR/>The race angle is there, and I think the stuff in the two other linked blog posts talk about it. But I get tired of hearing about the "3rd & Main Problem", when this is a fairly active block when it comes to retail...isnt that what people want? Sidewalk retail and a lot of people on the street?Jeffereyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294969786619943530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-63093406887752969562009-03-09T11:36:00.000-04:002009-03-09T11:36:00.000-04:00I love your photos and diagrams. Thanks for the g...I love your photos and diagrams. Thanks for the great information. This article deserves a wide discussion. I'm wondering how our current city commissioners and mayor might respond to the points raised in this article? It seems to me that the substance of this article should discussed by candidates in the current City of Dayton primary election.Mike Bockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12060253999299447506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7572205562498024454.post-31882256523898085692009-03-08T23:43:00.000-04:002009-03-08T23:43:00.000-04:00I guess someone needs to comment (too bad you can'...I guess someone needs to comment (too bad you can't comment on it at the more trafficked Dayton OS site). As Attorney General Holder noted, race is a subject that Americans are afraid to talk about, in part because of its land mine qualities. However given the many retail business closings we are seeing in the black communities like the West Dayton Krogers and Rite Aids, the idea of growing a small business economy for black entrepreneurs is interesting, and this might be a location to do it. Such businesses may also be more able to survive economic downturns brought in from the larger (white dominated) economy. You do mention the prevalent idea to make downtown a place that is friendly to whites with things like the Schuster, Riverscape and the Victoria, as well as some noontime events at Courthouse Square. Most of these are not active when there is lots of bus traffic at W Third St. But, as you point, out urban legends of black violence live long and die hard. A concerned black citizen addressed the County Commissioners a week or so ago about the congregation of youth on Third and Main, and was more concerned with having activities for these youths than intimidating and punishing them. Maybe something like that could be done downtown (how about that Arcade property that no one knows what to do with?) And of course it would be nice to do something about Fear of a Black Planet. Perhaps we should commission the Dayton Dialogue on Race Relations, National Conference on Community and Justice and the Peace Museum to run some reconciliatory programs on the site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com